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Our Mother is our Savior Gal 4:26 the family system God wants to show us who is a child of promise read Gen15 till Gen17 to see WHO is the heir a child coming from Sarah she was seen as the free woman Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free an she is our Mother new Covenant God say I am her Husband Isa54:5 and WE must make HER the praise of the earth Isa 62:7-8 AMEN🌝

As the scripture says ...... many will stumble and fall from truth...! These former members are those, who are like judas iscariot who was driven by satan and turn away from God. I myself is a member for about 12 years, Wmscog never forced members to do the Gospel, never ask for money, never ask for abortions ITS A BIG LIE. Numerous Gospel Workers have kids and families and a very cordial social relationship. On the Contrary Wmscog preach to love your Family, Neigbours and Even not to judge the people.

If God was better at expressing His thoughts these endless discussions would be totally unnecessary.

You know it's all way the people in positions that complain and nothing really happen to them but come back for your salvation it's not easy to go to Heaven you have to be strong but you keep on blesfeming with Jeremy you cry in the beginning and then you joke about God that came a second time you talk about a fool must listen but you Jeremy are the fool you are all fools the Bible says so keep on and see where u gonna end up so sad u say we seek weak people but you look for the weak ones so that you can make them more like you faithless Godless you will see REAL fear when you going to He'll ok😟 it's so sad to listen to you so 2012 was jus preparing us for the worst I don't know why people are so imichore sorry for my spelling but you know what i'm talking about I really hope for u all to serve God in Zion with wisdom then to mock God I feel sorry FOR YOU ALL😭

Beautiful Warren!

You cannot choose Christ, Christ chooses us then the holy spirit helps us to come and live for him. This sounds like you believe in the human will which is foolishness. No man with his or her free will can stand before God on judgement and receive citizenship into heaven

2:31 what is your scriptural basis for saying male+female is a better image of God than just man? Sorry, that’s just my quick synopsis of what you said, but I didn’t really understand the whole idea of this.

Re: "better ways of interpreting..." Why would you try to "interpret" Scripture that is "crystal clear? " Luther wisely advised his students, "... If the literal [biblical] sense makes sense, seek no other sense. " Never mind the TULIP acrostic. It just muddies the water. Your problem is an unwillingness to read and accept what is clearly outlined and supported throughout the Bible viz. God unilaterally choosing the elect based on extending mercy while rejecting others -- so clearly revealed in Rom. 9:15-18 ; and restated in 9:21-23.

Calvin wouldn’t say faith is righteousness but he actually denies that faith has any power in it. But instead is a mere instrument that receives the righteousness of Christ alone as our righteousness. He also doesn’t deny our gifts being called “ours” at this exact cavil but comparing it to the passage the we say “give us this day our daily bread” we don’t deny the bread is truly ours while it also being given.

Wow what a great video…. I am currently trying to deprogram a member of wsmcog that I met at the mall. I am trying to make him think for himself to make him realize that he is being manipulated. Any idea or suggestion to help this great young man is accepted.

Definitely the Calvinist is correct because they are referring to verse 5 of Ephesians 1.. Now you are reading Romans 8:23 which is another thing.. Romans 8:23 says: "And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body." Here the elect are already in Christ because they are already saved but they are longing for the redemption of their body... This means that their soul is already redeemed when they are saved but not their body.. They are still suffering of the sin nature that penetrated not only to their soul but also to their body.. That is the very reason that born again Christians are still sinning the sin that cannot lead them to death...

ephesians 2:8-9 : "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. " 1 cor 4:7 "What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?" so ephesians tells me that my faith is the gift of God, and 1 corinthians says that all things I have are things that I have received from God, and that I should not boast them as my own. I question the false dichotomy you suggest that "if God gave it to you, you can't call it your own, or if you did, you would be arrogant". If God miraculously healed my leg which had been cut off, would I call it God's leg, though it were given to me by God and I had no capability to grow it of myself? also, ephesians suggests that I am not saved by faith, I am saved by grace, with faith as the delivery method. therefore I would disagree that calvinists view faith as a work which 'merits' salvation, or that it is 'equivalent to righteousness'. keep in mind, we believe romans 8:30 "and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified." so I have done nothing to 'merit' salvation, I am simply a "vessel[s] of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory" romans 9:23 . my salvation was determined before I had faith. I think you might be confusing calvinism with molinism, which does imply that the believer, in one sense, 'merits' salvation.

“For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake,” ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭1‬:‭29‬ ‭ESV‬‬ God grants faith. It’s my faith in that I exercise it. It’s faith from God in that he gave it to me, such that, if he did not give it to me, I would not have believed unto salvation.

What is the true church if it’s not the church that follows all of Gods commandments, laws, decrees or statutes? I bet this man goes to a church with idolatry in and out of it. I bet this man thinks the saints and the church can give the water of life😂 I’m one to believe only God can do that. Wow 🤯 Satan uses his best workers on the children of promise. That’s to bad Berine. We know what God says about people who know the truth and still abandons it. 🤦🏾‍♂️

I am a member of WMSCOG. I can tell these are young members of the church and haven’t studied long enough for the pushback Jordan has. These brothers aren’t fully equipped with the words of Elohim God and yes should’ve walked away from this spiritual battle. I can go on and on how Jesus was prophesied in the O.T with Prophecies of David’s Throne, The order of Melchedeck, the everlasting covenant just to name a few. Yes we are told not to be on the internet for this reason, many of our brothers and sisters are young in the truth and knowing all the studies takes time. Yes, the Holy City New Jerusalem is Heavenly Mother. We also know this the studies of the Ark of the Covenant and the female metaphors throughout the Bible. We do believe in the Trinity and Love Jesus. But much like the disciples in the apostolic age we are preaching the good news of God and being slandered and ridiculed for it. Also, same how the apostles stopped praying and calling on Lord Jehovah and started praying in the name of Jesus, likewise we pray and call on the new name of God in the age of the Holy Spirit. We do not break the 2nd commandment of worshipping idols such as the cross or use beads even pray to statues and saints. We are the true children of God and God distinguishes that through those who keep the New Covenant(everlasting covenant, eternal life) God bless you WMSCOG brothers in this video. We must know the Bible says what Satan will try to do but also the World History facts that fulfilled the prophecies that we know to be true. Thank you please do not be controlled by Satans illusions and if you have a heart find your local WMSCOG near you and do some studies to have a clear understanding. God bless you🫰🏾🫰🏾 WMSCOG.com

Jordan, you misunderstood Piper.. What he said was: Our union with Christ has been accomplished in the mind of Christ before God created the world.. The fact the he said accomplished means before it was accomplished we were not in union with Christ.. I can even say it stronger than what Piper said: I should say: "Relative to God our union with Christ has been accomplished since eternity past..

Dear friend. I agree faith is not meritorious. However I suggest that we do not 'choose' to believe. It is an involuntary response to a conviction based on evidence. Whether the evidence is true or not. Whether our reasoning/emotional analysis is correct or not.

You: “ …the Bible doesn’t seem too comfortable with referring to it as our righteousness” Jesus: Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except *your righteousness* shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Oops!

Your faith means God gave it to you and you believed! Pelagius and Flowers both say man can produce his own faith. Just stating the facts! Nowadays, debating the Ukraine war is more peaceful activity. Blessings to you all.

I would bet that the woman didn’t think she saved herself with her own faith and neither did Jesus.

If it’s your own personal faith that you conjure up from your flesh that saves you then what do you need Jesus for? Just save yourself with your own faith. No need for Jesus.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Exact same Greek construction . “ the Lord (of) me and the God (of) me” Do you think Thomas had his own God that he produced by himself?

Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, A child of God does not possess their own faith because there is only one. They possess and walk by *THE FAITH* of Jesus Christ Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Right. The children of God are not saved by their own righteousness same as they’re not saved by their own faith. They are saved by the righteousness of Jesus Christ and *THE FAITH* of Jesus Christ that is placed within them and produced by the Holy Spirit. “Christ in you the hope of glory.” The Bible just literally says so .

Yes, the Bible says that faith is produced by God. It just flat out, literally says it. Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, *FAITH*

2 cor 1:24 “ the faith”

2 Tim 1:5 “sincere faith *WITHIN* you”

1 John 5:4 same again…. “The faith is” again, generative possessive

Luke 7:50….. once again “the faith you” . Same genitive, possessive.

Matthew 9:22. Again….. the faith of you. Genitive possessive.

Mark 5:34. Again in Greek, it is “the faith of you” not your faith. The definite article is not there for nothing. The pronoun is in the possessive genitive. There’s only one faith. The elect of God posses it.

This is well-said!

It doesn’t say your faith. It says the faith.

Is there any way I can contact you Jordan? I would like to speak to you about your experience with the unpardonable sin/Hebrews.

Calvinism makes faith a mere formality

Excellent point!!

A lady handed me a paper and it said, “god is a mother” and I was like wtf kinda woke ideologies are those😂

The amount of people attempting to twist the narrative of this cloth to fit the historicity of a character who himself may never have existed as written is honestly just tragic.

I accidentally said something mean to the Holy Ghost after that I stopped moving I stressed I felt Guilty

But Is not God the Father and God the Son and God the Spirit as one? Was not Abraham credited as righteous by God? Was not Abel's sacrifice accepted by God? Was not Jacob received the blessing after wrestling with God? Was not Moses able to see the glory of God when He was covered as he stood on the cut on the rock? Was not Noah saved from the Flood? Was not Adam and Eve not die when they ate the fruit and were clothed by God to hide their nakedness? Are not these by His grace, His works of Salvation prior to Christ? Or are not these as well if Father and Son and Holy Ghost are one, salvation by Jesus himself prior to his time on Earth? Did not Jesus say before Abraham was, I am?

I hit an Eric Andre and epically trolled the Amarillo chapter… One day I went to a study and I let them spew for about 20 minutes before I made a big ole fan fair and hit em with… “But wouldn’t be interesting today to learn about brother?” And I started using random verses with the word brother in it to make out of context references to them. Then I projected what I was doing back onto them until I got kicked out 😂

I found peace in the Church of God. Thanks to Father and Mother. Everything im listening to here is far from what i learn and taught in the World Mission Society Church of God. My father studied the bible alot and i heard from him when i was young what we are practising now in our church at that time is a changed law and the only one can teach us the truth is the Second Coming Christ and he must appear again as a man so when the Church of God approached me and study the bible, 100% I believed this is the truth I was waiting for. The purpose of our faith is to go to heaven. Im sorry for your expectations. You listened to members instead of listening to God. The bible is talking about coming disasters so how can we be saved? Do yous believe the bible? Even i was taught about all of these disasters before the Church of God but no one teach any solution to be saved they just say believe in Jesus. Im sorry everyone I believe the World Mission Society has the perfect truth.

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Nothing says this image has to have been Jesus. Could have been some other bloke entirely. Certainly didn't look like anyone from the relevant ethnic background.

Is there any way I can contact you Jordan?

There is NOT a single verse in the bible that says God is 3 seperate persons. This is pure speculation. GOD IS ONE SPIRITUAL PERSON , but manifests as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. GOD is Omnipresent, so he exits as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit at the same time while remaining ONE spiritual person. This is the essence of strict monotheism.

The KEY problem is not the Trinity. The problem is using the word "Persons" to describe the Members of the Trinity. Trinity Error. The Trinity Doctrine (as defined in the Nicean and Athanasius creeds 4th Century) states that God is 3 separate persons. 3 persons = 3 seperate beings = 3 God's = Tritheism, and this is NOT biblical. The bible is strictly Monotheistic (Deuteronomy 6:4) and states that God is One Spiritual person and not three persons.DEFINITIONS: BEING = defined as anything that exists or lives. PERSON = defined as any being that has its own center of consciousness and will, its own intelligence and personality (eg, human beings or spiritual beings). Therefore, a person is by default also a being. So 3 PERSONS = 3 BEINGS

Yes, Yes carbon dating did debunk the Shroud of Turin.

It's insane that you can waste so much time to proof something is real which is based on a lie.